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administration's auto industry bailout. the ads assert general motors and chrysler are adding jobs in china at the expense of workers in ohio. both g.m. and chrysler have protested. but the romney campaign insists the facts in the ads are accurate. syrian government forces stepped up widespread air assaults on opposition strongholds today, anti-government activists said, after a holiday ceasefire fell apart. amateur video showed mig fighter jets strike near a mosque on the outskirts of damascus. warplanes also pounded the north, in towns including dair al zour. two days of bombing have left at least 185 people dead. meanwhile, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton called for a shakeup of the syrian opposition in its bid to oust president assad. she said it should include people who've been fighting on the front lines, not just activists who've lived outside of syria for decades. in china, a government think tank urged leadership to end the country's one-child policy. it recommends each family be allowed to have two childr
administration's auto industry bailout. the ads assert general motors and chrysler are adding jobs in china at the expense of workers in ohio. both g.m. and chrysler have protested. but the romney campaign insists the facts in the ads are accurate. syrian government forces stepped up widespread air assaults on opposition strongholds today, anti-government activists said, after a holiday ceasefire fell apart. amateur video showed mig fighter jets strike near a mosque on the outskirts of...
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like to say this is really a contest to see which group of zombies when you know on the one hand the obama administration is more committed to the democratic zombies you know all these programs disability support food stamps all those kinds of things and the mitt romney machine more the more focused on the defense big spending wall street zombies and they're all zombies because they all take real resources flesh and blood out of the real economy and use them and don't produce anything and so but the contest is really a contest to decide which group wins it won't make any difference really in the long run because the u.s. is running a huge deficit whether and where the money goes if as long as it's wasted it won't make any difference the deficit. the debt gets bigger and bigger the economy grows at a slower and slower pace and eventually blows up yeah ok well that brings me to you the debt and when this blows up because you wrote the empire of debt and maybe that's an indicator that shows where this country is headed it's staggering for both the government and the private sector what does t
like to say this is really a contest to see which group of zombies when you know on the one hand the obama administration is more committed to the democratic zombies you know all these programs disability support food stamps all those kinds of things and the mitt romney machine more the more focused on the defense big spending wall street zombies and they're all zombies because they all take real resources flesh and blood out of the real economy and use them and don't produce anything and so...
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not only does its make his administration look competent but it makes the case for a government role, the role of government has been one of the fundamental debates between these two candidates. if the federal response does not look so competent we've seen how devastating that can be for incumbent presidents. we saw that with katrina, for instance, and george w. bush. >> woodruff: dan, what about a role for governor romney at a time like this? >> well, it's minimal at this point. i mean he really has to remain essentially invisible. he can't look like he's trying to do anything to exploit the politics of the moment. so in a sense there's more potential up side for president obama, but as susan said more potential down side for governor romney i think it is a matter of just kind of waiting and watching and then deciding at what point he can go back out. i mean one of the issues is, does this short circuit kind of the surge of energy that we've seen around the romney campaign? there's no question that there is more energy out there in the republican base and at events he's been holding.
not only does its make his administration look competent but it makes the case for a government role, the role of government has been one of the fundamental debates between these two candidates. if the federal response does not look so competent we've seen how devastating that can be for incumbent presidents. we saw that with katrina, for instance, and george w. bush. >> woodruff: dan, what about a role for governor romney at a time like this? >> well, it's minimal at this point. i...
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barack obama rebuilt it. and we are seeing it it work and respond. >> woodruff: do you think the storm could be making that much of a difference. >> i think the perception and you see activity and you see the chris christie thing. people are saying why is christie doing this, for his own mattal ambitions. >> i don't think there is anything like that when you are the governor of a state, a state you love that is in your heart and soul you feel an intense sense of stewardship. and when it gets wallopped by the storm the poll particulars seems irrelevant at this point. and as christie said, i don't care about the politics. if he is going to help me with my state, he is going to help the people of my state, then i'm grateful and i will work with him. so i think it is as simple as that. and i think he has been perfectly willing to hold the view that he's not a good steward of the economy, not good on budget negotiations but he's good on this. and we worked together on this. i don't think that is politically incons
barack obama rebuilt it. and we are seeing it it work and respond. >> woodruff: do you think the storm could be making that much of a difference. >> i think the perception and you see activity and you see the chris christie thing. people are saying why is christie doing this, for his own mattal ambitions. >> i don't think there is anything like that when you are the governor of a state, a state you love that is in your heart and soul you feel an intense sense of stewardship....
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the obama administration pledged they would drop down upon the great 5.4%. that certainly didn't happen. i'm curious as voters look at the newspapers tomorrow will the newspapers tell the truth that in this report touted as being positive wages went down. hourly earningwent down, hours worked went down. this is really a sad commentary if we have to interpret this somehow positively. gerri: clearly we have a long ways to go, wants you to hear something the president said today on the campaign trail and respond. here is the president. >> 2008 we were in the middle of two wars. today our businesses ha created nearly five and a half million new jobs and this morning we learned the companies hired more workers in october than any timm in the past eight months. gerri: you listen to that, he seems very proud of his record t the reality is we have 7.9% unemployment higher than a month ago. how do you respond? >> we have had 32 straight months of job growth and it is not hollowed, it is a strong growth to a can affect the outcf the worst economic crisis since the gre
the obama administration pledged they would drop down upon the great 5.4%. that certainly didn't happen. i'm curious as voters look at the newspapers tomorrow will the newspapers tell the truth that in this report touted as being positive wages went down. hourly earningwent down, hours worked went down. this is really a sad commentary if we have to interpret this somehow positively. gerri: clearly we have a long ways to go, wants you to hear something the president said today on the campaign...
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the washington post reports that the obama administration has been in talks to build a new syrian opposition leadership to stop the violence from spreading across the middle east. the plan is also intended to prevent radical islamic fighters from taking control of the opposition group. >>> in south carolina income tax returns were targeted in the largest cyber attack against a state tax department in american history. more than 3 million social security numbers were compromised along with more than a million businesses and personal credit and debit cards. >>> jerry sandusky, the former penn state assistant football coach and convicted child sexual predator has been transferred to a super max security prison near pittsburgh where he'll serve his sentence of 30 to 60 years. >>> and the new world poker champ is a 24-year-old recovering drug addict and college dropout. greg merson of maryland is the new champ. he won on the 399th hand of texas hold 'em. look at that. collecting more than $8.5 million and a gold championship bracelet that's worth 150,000 bucks. looking cool with that stack of cas
the washington post reports that the obama administration has been in talks to build a new syrian opposition leadership to stop the violence from spreading across the middle east. the plan is also intended to prevent radical islamic fighters from taking control of the opposition group. >>> in south carolina income tax returns were targeted in the largest cyber attack against a state tax department in american history. more than 3 million social security numbers were compromised along...
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you had the obama administration , his campaign, his surrogates. this election did not stop. down and not to, but it did not stop. gerri: which brings up the question, who gets the momentum now? coming into this event, this massive storm that has really paralyze this region, romney had the momentum. by friday, saturday who will have the big mark? >> i don't think this changes the momentum. it freezes it. a fourth of the country, everyone is preoccupied with there daily lives. nothing is changed in the fundamental dynamics of this race. put it out. the president of the united states is tied with romney 46 test 46. that is a dangerous number for the incumbent more than romney because if an incumbent is below 50% traditionally almost everyone who is not for him is either going to stay hoe of four for the challenger. obama at 46% shows he is slipping into underdog status as we spak. gerri: the me show you another, as long as you're talking polls, we have one, the national average. and obama is at 47%. i did he'd. gretchen, you know, here is what i don't understand. i thought that
you had the obama administration , his campaign, his surrogates. this election did not stop. down and not to, but it did not stop. gerri: which brings up the question, who gets the momentum now? coming into this event, this massive storm that has really paralyze this region, romney had the momentum. by friday, saturday who will have the big mark? >> i don't think this changes the momentum. it freezes it. a fourth of the country, everyone is preoccupied with there daily lives. nothing is...
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so, is the obama administration deliberately stonewalling about libya? as we said a group of seniors is demanding answers today. senator john powell joins us? >> good evening, greta. >> greta: released seven letters from senator mccain and lindsay graham. they don't get answered. they were going over a period of time. are these letters sort of futile zwres to your or something happen from them? >> no, i've read the letters they ask the precisely the right questions. first of all, katherine heritage has done good reporting on day from one. david ignasius and he complimented fox news for raising these important questions. he listed a group of questions. some of which you raised here. he also says the time line of events should be provided before the election, not after the election. if i could make that point right now, you have so many questions about the commander in chief and what he did or what he didn't do. whether his orders were clear that this has to be cleared up before the election. so we the people that employ the commander in chief can make a d
so, is the obama administration deliberately stonewalling about libya? as we said a group of seniors is demanding answers today. senator john powell joins us? >> good evening, greta. >> greta: released seven letters from senator mccain and lindsay graham. they don't get answered. they were going over a period of time. are these letters sort of futile zwres to your or something happen from them? >> no, i've read the letters they ask the precisely the right questions. first of...
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how does the obama administration respond to that number at a time when people are hurting? >> that number is misleading, what we're actually seeing is consumers confidence is at the highest level in four years, what that means is that bob jonein toledo is seeing something that joe smith at goldman sachs might not be, that the job numbers, pretty good 171,000 new jobs what you said, and again, it's growing and the small up tick in the unemployment rate is actually a different measure and pretty insubstantial. >> angela, we have one out of six people living in poverty. >> yes. >> and that's a sobering number here in 2012 when many people expect that we should be doing much better than that and people shouldn't have to be suffering in such a way. >> uma, after 814 billion dollars stimulus package after a 26 billion dollar stimulus package was supposed to create jobs and then the auto bailout and then we've had solyndra, so much money has been wasted and the president when he started, i cannot cut the deficit. if i cannot bring more prosperity to america then it's going to be a
how does the obama administration respond to that number at a time when people are hurting? >> that number is misleading, what we're actually seeing is consumers confidence is at the highest level in four years, what that means is that bob jonein toledo is seeing something that joe smith at goldman sachs might not be, that the job numbers, pretty good 171,000 new jobs what you said, and again, it's growing and the small up tick in the unemployment rate is actually a different measure and...
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fact checkers are calling out the romney campaign for a new ad implying that the obama administration's overseeing the outsourcing of autoworkers jobs. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who will build jeeps in china. >> not so bad says the ceo of chrysler issuing a statement reaching jeep production whether not be moved from the united states to china, it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. today president obama tours the storm devastation in atlantic city and vice president biden makes two campaign stops in florida. mr. romney will also be in florida as he makes three stops. paul ryan will spend the day campaigning in his home state of wisconsin. let's get back to sandy, because two of the three major airports serving the new york area, kennedy and newark, they'll start to reopen with limited service later this morning, but the super storm created a worldwide ripple effect. many are still stranded overseas. so we want to check in with michelle kosinski from london. good morning. >> reporter: right, it does have that sort of snowballing
fact checkers are calling out the romney campaign for a new ad implying that the obama administration's overseeing the outsourcing of autoworkers jobs. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who will build jeeps in china. >> not so bad says the ceo of chrysler issuing a statement reaching jeep production whether not be moved from the united states to china, it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. today president obama tours the storm...
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. >> they told the obama administration and consulate could not with stand a coordinated attack. peter doocy is live with more on that. >>> good morning. >> good morning heather. 3 and a half weeks before the september 11th terrorist attacks on benghazi on august 159. the u.s. mission in benghazi held an emergency meeting and august 16th a secret table was sent to the state department that laid out the concerns our team on the ground had at the time. and top of the list was consulate security. the guards did not think they could protect the consulate. the state department says al qaeda had training camps in benghazi and we got our hands on the direct quote from the cable rso regional security officer expressed concerns with theable to defend post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, post nation support security and the over all size of the compound. they also said security in benghazi was trading negatively and they were becoming more brazen with their operations because they weren't scared of the libyan security force or the libyan pol
. >> they told the obama administration and consulate could not with stand a coordinated attack. peter doocy is live with more on that. >>> good morning. >> good morning heather. 3 and a half weeks before the september 11th terrorist attacks on benghazi on august 159. the u.s. mission in benghazi held an emergency meeting and august 16th a secret table was sent to the state department that laid out the concerns our team on the ground had at the time. and top of the list was...
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. >> the message that christie is sending voters is that obama is doing a good job. he's not a scary, socialist person. he is somebody who can be trusted. >> reporter: in florida, governor romney criticized the administration's record helping small business. >> sometimes regulators seem to look at businesses like they're the enemy. >> reporter: he never mentioned the president by name. governor jeb bush did. claiming mr. obama is making excuses for his failures. >> it's almost as though the dog ate my home work is the reason why we're going through tough times. >> reporter: early voting reopened in maryland with long lines. >> three hours? >> yeah. it's worth it. >> reporter: in areas where flooding destroyed some polling places, they're considering putting up tents to make sure that residents can vote. more polls have the president up five points in ohio. they say things are so close and such a small lead in virginia and florida, they're calling it a tie. lynn? >> thank you. >>> we mentioned the obama-christie meeting is an extraordinarily coming together of two peo
. >> the message that christie is sending voters is that obama is doing a good job. he's not a scary, socialist person. he is somebody who can be trusted. >> reporter: in florida, governor romney criticized the administration's record helping small business. >> sometimes regulators seem to look at businesses like they're the enemy. >> reporter: he never mentioned the president by name. governor jeb bush did. claiming mr. obama is making excuses for his failures. >>...
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the obama administration is investigating itself with secret internal probes. now, aren't those by their very nature, inherently suspect and all the more reason why congress needs to conduct an independent investigation? >> i think investigations by both branches are appropriate. i think in the case of the obama administration, it's not only that their investigations have produced accounts so far which are only favor annual to them -- favorable to them, but the selective leaking of information has politicized the central intelligence agency and the pentagon, just a few days before our election. there is another letter out by another group of senators, senators coats and blunt and rubio andthers if i recall, that go precisely to that point. are these leaks authorized by the administration, or are these leaks by the agencies themselves? what this shows is i think the administration disarray and simply underlines the importance of congress getting to the bottom of this. >> gregg: katherine herrage obtained a classified cable from the u.s. mission in benghazi less
the obama administration is investigating itself with secret internal probes. now, aren't those by their very nature, inherently suspect and all the more reason why congress needs to conduct an independent investigation? >> i think investigations by both branches are appropriate. i think in the case of the obama administration, it's not only that their investigations have produced accounts so far which are only favor annual to them -- favorable to them, but the selective leaking of...
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police say two people are in custody. >>> "the washington post" reports that the obama administration has been in talks to build a new syrian opposition leadership to stop the violence from spread iing across the mide east. the plan is also intended to prevent radical islamic fighters from taking control of the opposition group. >>> in south carolina, income tax returns were targeted in the largest cyber attack against the state tax department in american history. more than 3 million social security numbers were compromised along with more than a million businesses and personal credit and debit cards. >>> and the new world poker champ is a 24-year-old recovering drug addict and college dropout. greg merson of maryland is the new champion. he won on the 399th hand of texas hold 'em, collecting more than 8.5 million bucks. and nice bling, a gold championship bracelet that's worth $150,000. not even a smile. >>> and now a look at how wall street begins this thursday after sandy forced a shortened week of trading. the dow closed at 13,096 after losing ten points yesterday. the s&p was up
police say two people are in custody. >>> "the washington post" reports that the obama administration has been in talks to build a new syrian opposition leadership to stop the violence from spread iing across the mide east. the plan is also intended to prevent radical islamic fighters from taking control of the opposition group. >>> in south carolina, income tax returns were targeted in the largest cyber attack against the state tax department in american history....
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coming up, the obama administration takes credit for saving g.m. but nonunion workers at an ohio plant think they got a raw deal. now to the next to vote question. which of these bluest states is most likely to swing red? text sr1 to 36288 for michigan. sr2 for minnesota. sr3 for new mexico. sr4 for pennsylvania. results a little later. next up, a close look at the latino vote. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. actually... th way i could split my payments up into little bite-size chunks. i mean you feel me right? yeah. uh, sir... ah... [ male announcer ] shop now. and put it on layaway so you have more time to pay. walmart. [ metal rattling ] ♪ hello? boo! i am the ghost of meals past. when you don't use new pam, this is what you get. residue? i prefer food-based phantasm, food-tasm. poultry-geist works too if you used ch
coming up, the obama administration takes credit for saving g.m. but nonunion workers at an ohio plant think they got a raw deal. now to the next to vote question. which of these bluest states is most likely to swing red? text sr1 to 36288 for michigan. sr2 for minnesota. sr3 for new mexico. sr4 for pennsylvania. results a little later. next up, a close look at the latino vote. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it...
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republican law americas increasing calls for the obama administration to de classify videos from the benghazi terror attack. senator john mccain outraged the administration staying quiet with those details. >> this administration is very good at touting and giving all of the details like when they got bin laden. but now we know they were tapes they were top secret. >> democrats complained republicans are politicizing the issues. >>> a clean sweep for san francisco. >> the giants are 1, 0>> a big night for gem the giant beating the tiger 4-3 to win the world series. pablo san ball was named the world series mvp. it is the second championship in three years. congratulations. >> it is 11 minutes after the hour. team coverage of hurricane sandy continues this morning. we are up an hour early to bring you the latest. we will go live to the outer banks where heavy wind and high rain continues to pound the coast. think it's weird to collect air? you wouldn't think so if you saw what your lungs collect every time you breathe. protect your health with life-saving air quality updates from the
republican law americas increasing calls for the obama administration to de classify videos from the benghazi terror attack. senator john mccain outraged the administration staying quiet with those details. >> this administration is very good at touting and giving all of the details like when they got bin laden. but now we know they were tapes they were top secret. >> democrats complained republicans are politicizing the issues. >>> a clean sweep for san francisco. >>...
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. >> obama administration facing accusations it did not use all of its resources to save the americans in benghazi. pat roberts sent a letter to president obama, writing... >> greta: senator roberts is the former senator of the select committee of service. >> good evening. >> greta: we all come to this -- many of us, stunned. i don't understand why we have two stories and we should have one story. get it out and let's be done with t. we are not going that out from the administration. you come to it as a marine. you have spoken to the military members? >> well, we were having town hall meetings in can das and they are wondering about wawill happen with a debt and the fiscal cliff, where's the farm bill? not this time. five, six town hall meetings, every meeting, american legion members, like john mccain said, people who have been deployed and are deployed, people in the reserve, one young man comes up to me and said, i was deployed five times with the same mission. he said, i am glad i am out. i knew i was going to be in harm's way. that's why i signed up. edbut today, i don't think the
. >> obama administration facing accusations it did not use all of its resources to save the americans in benghazi. pat roberts sent a letter to president obama, writing... >> greta: senator roberts is the former senator of the select committee of service. >> good evening. >> greta: we all come to this -- many of us, stunned. i don't understand why we have two stories and we should have one story. get it out and let's be done with t. we are not going that out from the...
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administration. you would have to be a mind reader to know what that statement means. >> cynthia, most of the program is dealing with the storm obviously our concern. but president obama was asked about the storm's impact on the presidential election today. listen to what his response was. >> the impact of the election, sir? >> i am not worried at this point about the impact on the election. i am worried about the impact on families and i'm worried about the impact on our first responders. i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the ee lx will take care itself. >> how big of an impact is the hurricane to have in voters' minds, cynthia? >> first of all, the presidential's statement was pitch perfect. i am here in my capacity as president of the united states to support everyone. those who will vote for me and those who will not. but i think it's also true that mitt romney must be feeling a little bit frustrated by the fact that viewers are, first of all, going to s
administration. you would have to be a mind reader to know what that statement means. >> cynthia, most of the program is dealing with the storm obviously our concern. but president obama was asked about the storm's impact on the presidential election today. listen to what his response was. >> the impact of the election, sir? >> i am not worried at this point about the impact on the election. i am worried about the impact on families and i'm worried about the impact on our...
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i mean, we have had -- >> hi, ed. >> -- one of the real nemesis of the obama administration, chris christie, rejected the stimulus package that would have connected manhattan with his state, which was big commerce. he fired 6,000 teachers, he has attacked public unions. he vilifies workers all the time about they're on a wage and looking for something more. and now here he is cozying up to the president in a time of crisis. explain it. >> well, you can use all sorts of political explanations, like, you know, it would be easier for him to run for president at the end of an obama second term than it would be at the end of a romney second term or that this helps them to get re-elected as governor of new jersey, but i choose to see it in a more sincere fashion. this is a government whose state is in deep trouble, my state. there are a lot of people hurting, and so this really isn't about politics. it's about trying to use government for its -- really its highest purpose, which is to help people when they're in trouble. and as a northeastern republican, who understands, as mitt romney did when h
i mean, we have had -- >> hi, ed. >> -- one of the real nemesis of the obama administration, chris christie, rejected the stimulus package that would have connected manhattan with his state, which was big commerce. he fired 6,000 teachers, he has attacked public unions. he vilifies workers all the time about they're on a wage and looking for something more. and now here he is cozying up to the president in a time of crisis. explain it. >> well, you can use all sorts of...
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the idea at the end of this whole process of the editorial board that four more years of an obama administration would change any of that, and particularly momentum on the economic front was just something that this board couldn't see. >> cenk: all right now everybody is here, ana kasparian, michael shure, jayar jackson, they join us for this conversation. as i listen to that i think that's one of the dumbest things i ever heard. now we have partisan gridlocks let's make sure that we award the republicans because they won't work with the democrats let's just award the republicans. >> you be are saying there is a partisan gridlock and then you want to give the guy that will give them what they want. i don't care what they're endorsing. i feel like as a newspaper you should not be endorsing anybody. i don't care in it's the editorial board i'm not interested in that. >> cenk: we discussed that earlier in the day. we know that newspapers have been endorsing candidates for a long time. why do they do that? >> generally the history of the newspaper endorsement was about the best chance for good chang
the idea at the end of this whole process of the editorial board that four more years of an obama administration would change any of that, and particularly momentum on the economic front was just something that this board couldn't see. >> cenk: all right now everybody is here, ana kasparian, michael shure, jayar jackson, they join us for this conversation. as i listen to that i think that's one of the dumbest things i ever heard. now we have partisan gridlocks let's make sure that we...
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but he knows that he needs to have a great relationship with the obama administration to get the help that he needs. you can see him in that picture that we just saw, nodding his head vigorously, when the president said that every phone call should be returned within 15 minutes. he needs a responsive federal government. but what this does, what this whole scene today does is it reinforces one of the most important themes of this election. do americans believe in government, was the conservative wing of the republican party, which dominates that political party, believes the answer is no. and as you heard earlier in the broadcast, mitt romney actually was ready to privatize fema. now, imagine what would that toll to the people of new york or new jersey, if it were filled with hacks, or remember brownie. now we have craig fugate and they are getting it done. >> they purport this theory that the federal government has no role, a limited role. new jersey's been run over with disaster. they don't have the state resources to recover, at least within the next decade. i mean, the insurance cl
but he knows that he needs to have a great relationship with the obama administration to get the help that he needs. you can see him in that picture that we just saw, nodding his head vigorously, when the president said that every phone call should be returned within 15 minutes. he needs a responsive federal government. but what this does, what this whole scene today does is it reinforces one of the most important themes of this election. do americans believe in government, was the conservative...